I have 2 little ones under the age of 5...so spare time is a hot commodity.
But when I can...I read, quilt and we also all go hiking together.
i have been here for almost 3 months now and was curious what ya'll did for fun outside of jwd.com.
right now because it's summer and it's too hot i don't do much glassblowing.
but that is where i spend most of my weekends when i'm not working.
I have 2 little ones under the age of 5...so spare time is a hot commodity.
But when I can...I read, quilt and we also all go hiking together.
this week i had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
during the week a friend that i know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference.
it was so great to finally meet her and talk.
This week I had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
During the week a friend that I know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference. It was so great to finally meet her and talk. I brought my husband and kids along and everything went great. She has her life really going well and she hasn't become one of the crazy ex-jw's that I have met. You know...I like to call them the ranting fanatics.
Then Saturday night we went and had dinner - hubby, me, 2 boys - with people my husband knew from his old hall. They are disassociated by their actions because they had a wreath on their door around the holidays...and it wasn't even a Christmas wreath. Also very nice people who have things going well for them. None of their kids are rapists, murderers, drunk drivers. They both have jobs and are super nice. They are very moral and not hurting anyone. They have moved on. They lost all their lifelong friends when they left and don't even want to hear about the JW's because after they left they researched and now feel as though they were duped all those years.
So after these 2 meetings my Darling Husband and I are talking and he was asking questions about the UN scandal and about the people we had seen this week.
We were talking...okay, mainly I was talking about how to me the JW's aren't right as far as being a Christian Organization and why I still want no part of them...
My husband responded that even though he doesn't want to talk to any elders or go to meetings - he feels Jehovahs Witnesses are the only people on earth doing what they are doing and living in accordance with the Bible... so they must be right. His explaination was a little longer - but that was the jist of it.
It left me feeling very discouraged and I feel like he is going to eventually go back. Probably not anytime soon, but I would bet Las Vegas money that he will start studying again or go to a memorial.
I feel very sad because I really want him to feel as I do about the JW's. I want him to stop defending them and saying good things about them. I want us to be on the same page about this and until we are I don't feel that we are really doing okay.
We've been together over 7 + years and I just feel like this stupid religion is always going to be between us.
I know some will say I could just let this all go and not freak out if he goes back to the hall or becomes active in the org again...but honestly I could not live with him if he went back. I wouldn't trust him or the ineveitable people that would come around...I'd be angry all the time.
I also know we've come a long way. He will now look at the so - called Apostate websites and information I show him. He will discuss things with me and I can be calm and not become maniacal in my arguements - the boys medical decisions are all up to me. So these are positive things.
I'm just feeling sad about his statement.
Thanks for letting me share this I think the people on this site are truly some of the only ones who may understand what I am feeling.
WG
anyone who's a fan of prince will recognize that through out much of his music, there has been a spiritual connect in his lyrics, with several references to god.
there are some who have had prior knowledge of the truth but didn't let on until later in their life.
larry grahm of "grahm central station" fame was somewhat illusive as to his connection to the truth at the start of his musical carrer.
I was just thinking the other day as I was listening to an old music compilation CD I made that I wish Prince would go back to his old dirty sexy self....sigh.
I think he's always been a searcher...searching for something because of his deep seeded inner demons. If it wasn't the JW's it would have been something else.
Just my 2 cents.
WG
hey,.
my partner in life (26yrs) has been converted to jw by his mother.. i am not one to whine -as very aware many have more troubles in their life.. i suppose one of my fears has been this exactly- as i know he was raised jw and should have saw the "signs.
" he always regularly visited with his mom, which i respected as felt a good sign he had a mother/son relationship.
Hi Freefly -
Been there
Done that
Bought the t-shirt &
Sold the movie rights....
With that said. I am still married to my husband who went back to the KH and in the beginning put me through absolute hell and mental anguish that I am sure you can relate to.
It's been 7+ years for me and my husband is just now stating he doesn't consider himself a Jehovahs Witness any longer.
I notice he gets all wierd though whenever his mother interferes in our relationship and she will just not give up. I hate her.
We have 2 sons and I have laid down the line in the sand that they will not be taught anything about the WTS or I will leave and he will not see us again. He knows I am a woman of my word.
If I can be of any help please feel free to send me a private message - I know how stressful living in this kind of situation can be. Sometimes you just want to run away and other times you want to scream at them for being so stupid and bringing this crap into your life.
Big hugs to you,
WG
hi, my name is amarantha.
i'm new to the board.
can anyone please tell me what the current disfellowshipping standards are?
Welcome!
You would probably only be disfellowshipped if your current beliefs don't coincide with the WTS teachings and if you were unwilling to come back to the hall and be an active JW.
Also, if you committed or admitted to commiting any acts the current Elders considered against Jehovah - smoking, sexual immorality...etc.
I think the WTS is cleaning house again because we have had Elders coming after my husband fast and furious...he's been away 3 years and for over 10+ years before that.
Good luck in whatever you decide and also realize you aren't in this alone...what you choose to do effects the rest of your family if they are JW's.
WG
what is it with the majority of inlaws that seem to thrive on making your life hell???
?my fiance's mother is really getting to me ive put up with a year of her opinions thrown in my face and year of her telling me how to raise my son.
she has completely taken over our wedding day and at our engagement her daughter who is also my bridesmaid turned up 2 hours late to our engagement party drunk and brought her friends and had her own little party, it aslso took her another hour to come and say hi to me!!!
Believe me it could always be worse...My MIL is cookoo.
She talks about suicide and rape in front of my children and her other grandchildren like it's an appropriate conversation for their tender ears. She makes up lies about me. She has at least 3 different people living inside of her...
On top of it she's an academy award winning actress who makes all the other jw's think she's some perfect little victimized saint.
I'll trade ya!
Better get your future hubby to lay down the law now and and make sure he tells Mumsy it was his idea and not yours...otherwise the rest of your life is going to be hellish.
I feel for you....
Maybe you could move far far away from her...
Good luck!
i love giving and helping people.
makes me feel good.. how about you, do you ever help out people out of pure agape love?.
giving time or money, without expecting anything back in return?
Sunspot,
I am a quilter so I have made lots of quilts for Projectlinus.org. It is such a worthy organization - giving the blanket hugs to kids.
The kids love the blankets and if it makes there day a little better that is the best!
WG
i love giving and helping people.
makes me feel good.. how about you, do you ever help out people out of pure agape love?.
giving time or money, without expecting anything back in return?
I give all the time. Not to anyone I know either....and it does benefit me because it declutters my house.
Anyone heard of www.freecycle.org I love it.
Gives people things they need or want and keeps stuff out of the landfills...although probably temporarily...and I get my house decluttered..
I also give money to homeless people....I don't care what they are going to do with the money....they look like they need it and I don't care if its a scam.
I don't know if this is the kind of agape you are talking about...
i think from time to time we have posters here that may be assigned by the gb to speak xjw speak and try to discourage posters from attacking the organization, or to just give up our internet fight to expose them, to just give up our efforts and forget about the wt.
if they did this they would have to keep close tabs on whoever they assign because they know that there is a great possiblity they may turn on them.
or perhaps they would trust no one except themselves and so you might even have a member of the gb actually posting in disguise.
I suppose that a person could pretend to be a xjw then strike up conversations with people being friendly and sympathetic...then get them to email them off this board and then trace their IP address through an IP look up thingy...My husband is a IT guy and I know he knows how to do it and I have used it and it gives out a lot of information about people especially if they are posting from their jobs.
So who knows...maybe there is a JW apostate swat team looking to keep the congregations clean.
Can you imagine what the watchtower geek squad would look like......LOL.
Kind of like a whole group of guys at Bethel sitting in a room typing on the internet...kind of like those policemen who hunt down kiddie porn wierdo's.
Okay....maybe I better stop thinking about this.
i grit my teeth, i tell you, i just grit them when i hear comments like this one.
this one guy in the kh has these lame ass comments all the time, and here is his latest, .
"we are sad about family that does not believe in jehovah anymore.
Oh I remember those comments..........geez!
When I first started going with my most wonderful husband....I got that from the KH drones.
We are your family. We love you...Your biological family isn't important...Your family in Jehovah is important.
Well my biological family has never turned their backs on me....or told me not to buy a turkey....or called me a demonized person because I questioned them...
I really feel badly for these people when they come to realize the truth about what's behind the curtain in Crooklyn and they try to go back to their families...so many hurt feelings from this pompous behavior.
It's just so wrong.
Does anyone think Jesus would turn his back on his mother, earthly father, or siblings if they didn't go to his temple, talks, etc?